12.3.11

Hindsight is 20/20


So I was watching this documentary called "ETHOS", which I was a bit skeptical about because it was hosted by Woody Harrelson.  I ended up giving it the benefit of the doubt that it was not going to be some crazed conspiracy film and started the youtube playlist.

A quote that appeared in text on the screen during the part of the doc devoted to the military industrial complex got my attention.  As you will read below - the accuracy of this quote being genuine is verifiable.  It certainly sends shivers down my spine to look at the current state of war the major military powers of the world are engaged in - and remember the premises upon which these war(s Afghanistan AND Iraq) were based in order gain the support - or at least the complacency - of the people. So below I'm posting the text that I found online that gave the best description and history for the context of these words.  You can also verify this on wikiquote and many other sites.  I always like to check more than one source.  So if you feel more comfortable with accepting something after you've done your own sleuthing then I invite you to go ahead.  I've watched more than a few docos that presented the infamous quotes from Woodrow Wilson and Dwight Eisenhower about the military industrical complex and the banks, however I hadn't seen this one before.  

Films like ETHOS often have the same tired re-run lineup of quotes and filmclips.  This was billed on topdocumentary films.com as an examination of our ethos: the character or fundamental values of a person, people, culture, or movement.  Not unlike Zeitgeist (and I do not mind the Zeitgeist films, but we don't need any more copycats, thankyouverymuch).  I was starting to feel deja vu but then the quote struck me cold.  The recipe for what has occurred in the last 10 years, spoke planinly.  It wasn't a political mistake or miscalculation of fact.  Words from the past that explain some of what we see today - and whether they came secondhand or not - from the lips of a brilliant Nazi propogandist, how true do they ring?

It's not surprising this gem of history is not brought to light more often.  Who among us wants to believe that we've come so far technologically, and socially - with the coexistence of cultures, lifestyles and gaining of human rights - yet we still been led by our noses into unjust conflicts based on fiction?  Fiction keeps us from connecting with the ones who are on the frontline, risking their reputations and livelihood to participate in peaceful protest, to continue to ask for peace.  Sometimes we say we just don't have the time, but more often the cynic can be heard bellowing about "hippies" being "unpatriotic" - isn't denouncing and vilifying the pacifist one of our media pundits favorite pastimes. (*See Bill O'Reilly berrating the son of a 911 victim for protesting the Afghan war).

 Who really benefitted from the Afghan invasion? Iraq has more points to argue - but Halliburton, private mercenaries and contractors certainly got their piece of the pie.   You don't know what's going on over there, I don't know what's going on over there in the sandy dustbowls - but I know that the collateral damage is beyond reproach.  

Being able to access and discover that the information and consequently the great hindsights and truths that we have not let learned from, may  alert us to the tactics being employed to ensure the manufacturing of our consent.  It is still so rare to encounter, and that is not surprising, I know few except WWII fanatics who might be in the loop on the below.  Notes are taken, people create records, and even if that information is freely available and not classified by our government - it can very easily remain mostly unnoticed and forgotten if those who benefit from it's suppression can keep the reminders relegated to the dusty history books. 

The internet has it's limitations, there are still areas where those with the money for great lawyers to fight copyright cases can still prohibit the distribution of some video/audio information and as we saw with Wikileaks and paypal, government can exert it's power over the flow of currency to keep independent distributors of information out of business.

Yet there are fewer places to hide things, and there are too many people tripping over great mountains of data and examining it, then sharing it - and we have come to a place technologically and socially in which much of the world only needs to plug in a basic wireless device to outlet what they know to 2 billion people in minutes.  I will present the following quotes without further commentary:


Although this quote was indeed spoken by Reichsmarschall Hermann
Goering during the course of the Nuremburg Trials, it was not part of
the trial records, since these remarks were made privately by Goering
in a conversation with prison psychologist and U.S. Army Captain
Gustave M. Gilbert that took place in Goering's jail cell.

"The quote cited  does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg
trials because although Goering spoke these words during the course of
the proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were
made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence
officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to
all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal
of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the
prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The
quote offered was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a
dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946,
as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter recess."


Snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm


Here is the complete quote, with a comment by Gilbert that occurred
midway through it:

"Goering's last days were spent with Gustave Gilbert, a
German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted
free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg
jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings
and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in
the book Nuremberg Diary. The following quote was a part of a
conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell
on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a
three-day Easter recess.

Sweating in his cell in the evening, Goering was defensive and
deflated and not very happy over the turn the trial was taking. He
said that he had no control over the actions or the defense of the
others, and that he had never been anti-Semitic himself, had not
believed these atrocities, and that several Jews had offered to
testify in his behalf... Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded
Goering's observations that the common people can always be
manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political
leaders."


"Nazi leader Hermann Goering, interviewed by Gustave Gilbert during
the Easter recess of the Nuremberg trials, 1946 April 18, quoted in
Gilbert's book 'Nuremberg Diary.'

Goering: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.



Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.



Goering: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."



NashuaPeace.org

http://naw.ijaq.net/conversation_with_Goering.htm

Nihildum.com

http://nihildum.com/goeringslastwords.html

1 comment:

  1. Iv seen this behaviour lately in Australia. Since the so called, ' lets find osama bin laden hysteria', Australian flags appeared everywhere; bikinis, hats and all manner of parafrenalia. Previous to this osama phenomenon, australian flags were indeed a bit daggy. Showing flags were a bit akin to an american bible belt fanaticism.

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